The Corporate Psychopath: I found them at META BANK when I was one of their prepaid bank card customers

Consumers, Your help is needed to get the proper regulations in place that will actually protect you and all of us from Bank Scams

I established this blog after I had been scammed by META BANK when using their prepaid bank card.

META BANK Lied to me and I had wondered why.

Then I went online and saw that META BANK had been doing this to many other people. It was always the same scam but using different PREPAID BANK CARD names.

The scam is “To keep customer’s money from them” and “To get a free interest loan for META BANK.” That is the part that is consistent and which happens regularly with META BANK.

META BANK has created all of the rules in the fine print on their bank contract. The rules can be changed at any time and with out notice to their customer base.

META BANK began with the underbanked and used that experience to build up their repertoire for what came to be their scam pattern that they would seek to push off onto the general public. The underbanked would be the most economically vulnerable people in our society.

META BANK promises to help them to improve their credit rating by getting one of META BANK’s PREPAID CARDS and by having their payroll salary check or government check directly deposited into an associated checking account. By doing this, META BANK gets full control of all of the assets of the most financially vulnerable people in our society. Then META BANK wreaks havoc on the lives of these people who have been enticed by false and misleading promises.

Oh, it was bad enough that META BANK had scammed me, but the fact that META BANK had done this to so many people really irritated me, and that they had done this to the most vulnerable among us really upset me… so much so that I had to speak-out on their behalf in an effort to protect others from being scammed by META BANK as I had viewed was happening to so many people already.

      • Potential Corporate Partners needed to be warned about the damage that META BANK would cause them when all the while lying to those corporate partners.
      • Consumers needed to be made aware so they could protect themselves.

I don’t want what had happened to me to happen to another person and yet META BANK had actually done much worse to others. I needed consumers to speak up and to act in ways that would serve to protect them and others. We are all in this together in one great fraternity of consumers/customers of a banking system. We must help each other  because banks like META BANK have shown us that they cannot or will not serve us as they should . Given the fact that META BANK has hired lobbyists (RUPLI and Associates) to promote the PREPAID BANK CARD, we can see that META BANK has the means to serve the public, but that their interests are only in creating greater and greater wealth for their CEO’s.

Because META BANK doesn’t understand the real purpose and role in what customer service should be, as consumers/customers, we must demand bank reforms that actually protect us from Banking Practices such as those currently practiced by META BANK.

The Corporate Psychopath

By Paul Babiak, Ph.D., and Mary Ellen O’Toole, Ph.D.

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Psychopathy is one of the most studied personality disorders. It consists of variations of 20 well-documented characteristics that form a unique human personality syndrome—the psychopath.

Many of these traits are visible to those who interact with the psychopath who possess some or all of these characteristics. For some, superficial charm and grandiose sense of self make them likable on first meeting.

Their ability to impress others with entertaining and captivating stories about their lives and accomplishments can result in instant rapport.

They often make favorable, long-lasting first impressions.

This personality disorder is a continuous variable, not a classification or distinct category, which means that not all corporate psychopaths exhibit the same behaviors.

Beneath the cleverly formed façade—typically created by psychopaths to influence their targets—is a darker side, which people eventually may suspect. ( META BANK’s advertisements were designed to address my needs as a customer, but the product really wasn’t designed to meet my needs. Then META BANK Lied to me. Is META BANK only hiring people who don’t mind lying? Certainly, after a while those people who must do the dirty work for META BANK by lying to their customer base will come to realize that they are only salaried employees and that  the CEO’s are making a real fortune from this scam. I saw the dark side of the PREPAID BANK CARDS very clearly and in a very negative way… I want to protect others.)

They can be pathological liars who con, manipulate, and deceive others for selfish means.( Wow! That is what META BANK does!!!) Some corporate psychopaths thrive on thrill seeking, bore easily, seek stimulation, and play mind games with a strong desire to win. ( MIND GAMES with a strong desire to win… That is exactly how I was treated by META BANK as their customer and why I feel so compelled to speak out to warn other consumers.)

Unlike professional athletes moved by a desire to improve performance and surpass their personal best, psychopaths are driven by what they perceive as their victims’ vulnerabilities. ( As a former META BANK customer/victim, I have observed that META BANK targets their publicity to customer’s self noted vulnerable areas… Often times, META BANK uses the customer’s desire to protect their financial welfare, promises them that security and then scams that same customer once they have possession and control of that Customer’s cash money. META BANK hasn’t improved their product to meet customer’s real needs; META BANK only changes the wording in their publicity to move the same product using a new name, but it is the same old scam all over again.)  

Little research exists on their inner psychological experiences; however, they seem to get perverted pleasure from hurting and abusing their victims. ( I believe that META BANK seeks out customer’s by making false promises and giving those potential customers misleading information to hook them in. META BANK changes their name and then does the same scam over and over again…. Of course, META BANK enjoys this scam and is indifferent to the people they scam. META BANK was indifferent to my needs as a customer and lied to me…. It was when they so boldly lied to me about many things and kept expanding the list of lies that I began to question what was really  going on within META BANK…. Then I read about Boesen and Pickhinkle, both of whom I felt got royally scammed by META BANK and then after Boesen committed suicide META BANK went after his estate. Years later META BANK was still trying to drain more assets out of the widow Boesen had left behind… I see META BANK/META FINANCIAL SYSTEMS as  a major con of our times.)

Functional magnetic resonance imaging (FMRI) research indicates that psychopaths are incapable of experiencing basic human emotions and feelings of guilt, remorse, or empathy.1  ( This is most likely the case for META BANK because once they have scammed one customer, they simply move on to the next. META BANK doesn’t learn from their mistakes so they can improve their services for their customers. OH NO!!! META BANK is inspired by their own success at lying to only lie more and to continue. The average person would feel remorse and any problems relayed to them by customers would be addressed, but META BANK only keeps doing the same scam over and over again.)

This emotional poverty often is visible in their shallow sentiment. ( Wow that described my experience with META BANK? META PAYMENT SYSTEMS which is after all really nothing but a collections agency. It had become obvious to me that to get the partner corporate entity to buy into promoting their product that META BANK had wined and dined that entity just so they could sweet talk them into scamming all of their customer base. This partnership gave META BANK full access to all of the customers with whom the partner  had been building a rapport for many years… I could no longer trust that corporate partner, and I severed all ties with them after many years as their customer… sad really… META BANK indicates that they have all of the collection aspects of the relationship in place as part of the publicity to that corporate partner… I never would have become a customer of META BANK if a trusted local partner hadn’t been the one selling me the PREPAID CARD….. META BANK had also lied to that corporate partner who initially sold me the prepaid card, but the scam was being pushed off onto me… That corporate partner wouldn’t believe that META BA NK could abuse me in such a way because the card had worked so well for them… Well, that was just apart of the bigger scam, and META BANK is a scam operation.)  

They display emotions only to manipulate individuals around them. They mimic other people’s emotional responses. Some lack realistic long-term goals, although they can describe grandiose plans. The impulsive and irresponsible psychopath lives a parasitic and predatory lifestyle, seeking out and using other people, perhaps, for money, food, shelter, sex, power, and influence.

Psychopathy is a personality disorder traditionally assessed with the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R).2 Often used interchangeably with psychopathy, the term sociopathy is obsolete and was removed from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) in 1968. Currently, there is no formal diagnosis of psychopathy in the DSM-Fourth Edition-Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR); however, it is being considered for the 2013 DSM-V list of personality disorders.

Façade

It is fascinating that psychopaths can survive and thrive in a corporate environment. Day-to-day interactions with coworkers, coupled with business policies and procedures, should make unmasking them easy, but this does not always hold true. Large companies’ command-and-control functions ought to make dealing with them simple and direct; however, this may not be the case. ( META BANK’s customer relations are convoluted. Their publicity is basically a lie. META BANK Makes money for their CEO’s who are incredibly rich!!!)

Psychopathic manipulation usually begins by creating a mask, known as psychopathic fiction, in the minds of those targeted.

( Because of the way that METABANK representatives lied to me and tried to push blame on me for their actions , which I believe were intentional that allowed META BANK to hold my $5,000.00 and to keep me from having access to my own money… I believe that there is Pschopathic manipulation present in META BANK.)

In interpersonal situations, this façade shows the psychopath as the ideal friend, lover, and partner. ( How else would such a person get by and be kept by META BANK? Also I believe that this person or group of people may actually be rather high ranking at META BANK)

These individuals excel at sizing up their prey. ( META BANK is best at studying the needs of the American Consumer and perhaps consumer’s in general and they market the identical product using many new names designed to meet the real needs of their targeted customer, but META BANK really has only one kind of prepaid bank card and META BANK retains the right to change all of the rules whenever they see fit and as often as they see fit without notice to their customers…. What kind of a real relationship is this? … The design relies on publicity targeted and crafted to appear to meet consumer’s real needs, but that is part of the scam.)

They appear to fulfill their victims’ psychological needs, much like the grooming behavior of molesters. ( META BANK says in their publicity that by using their PREPAID BANK CARDS that this is safer for customers; it isn’t safe at all for customers given how META BANK takes over and fully controls a customer’s money and keeps the customer from being able to access their own cash money while META BANK has free use of the customer’s money; in this way the PREPAID BANK CARD works like an interest free loan to META BANK while doing nothing at all to protect consumers…. META BANK gets corporate partners to market their card for them, most likely with promises of increased revenue, but that partner corporation will lose their former customer base who will find that META BANK is impossible to deal with. META BANK has obviously courted those corporate partners. Their employees are issued gift cards, and then asked to push the prepaid cards to their customer base. For the employees they can honestly say that the cards work quite well because for them they do. So they can sell the cards with a straight face and with great sincerity. The customers who are issued prepaid cards that may look like those that the employees have are actually issued prepaid cards with a different numbers and the contact phone number on the back will bring each to their designated customer service representative. The customers will find great difficulty using the cards and in dealing with META BANK who has told customers that they haven’t used the card correctly… this has been repeated over and over again per customer’s online complaints to that effect.)

Although they sometimes appear too good to be true, this persona typically is too grand to resist. They play into people’s basic desire to meet the right person—someone who values them for themselves, wants to have a close relationship, and is different from others who have disappointed them. ( Wow!!! This is even how META BANK’s PREPAID CARD Publicity reads… Customers are studied and then marketed to based on those customer’s most vulnerable areas what ever they are because META BANK has a card for all of those vulnerable areas. Actually the card is the same; the publicity for the card is modified to appear to meet the needs of the customer. It has always been the same prepaid card that META BANK has offered just with a new name.)

Belief in the realism of this personality can lead the individual to form a psychopathic bond with the perpetrator on intellectual, emotional, and physical levels. At this point, the target is hooked and now has become a psychopathic victim.

Corporate psychopaths use the ability to hide their true selves in plain sight and display desirable personality traits to the business world. To do this, they maintain multiple masks at length. (I had wondered how this worked, but it would seem that the people who are behind the scam by which META BANK operates may convey a very congenial face to the world or they send a newly hired employee to speak to the public… that new employee doesn’t even know that what they have been given to say is a con and that they have been given only partial information… SEE: LISA BINDER who spoke to the press about the Dubai Assassination Using a  META BANK PREPAID CARD. )

The façade they establish with coworkers and management is that of the ideal employee and future leader. This can prove effective, particularly in organizations experiencing turmoil and seeking a “knight in shining armor” to fix the company. ( This knight in shining armor must exude confidence that draws people to them… I feel so sorry for the employees of META BANK… Pickhinkle is in prison for bank fraud/embezzlement or CD fraud, but what were her supervisors doing while she did this scam? I think that she was as much a victim as the enactor of the crime… just my opinion from the outside looking in. She indicated at her trial that she was following directions… I believe her.)

Con

How is it possible for psychopaths to fool business-savvy executives and employers?

They often use conning skills during interviews to convince their hiring managers that they have the potential for promotion and the knowledge, skills, and abilities to do an outstanding job. ( It may be in the very higher/higher eschelon of META BANK where the con actually began, but the way META BANK’s operates is a scam of their customer base through the use of misleading information, publicity that has little basis in facts and by lying to their customer base, per my own experience.)

Using their lying skills, they may create phony resumes and fictitious work experience to further their claims. They may manipulate others to act as references. Credentials, such as diplomas, performance awards, and trophies, often are fabricated.

“Psychopathic manipulation usually begins by creating a mask,known as a psychopathic fiction, in the minds of those targeted.”

Once inside the organization, corporate psychopaths capitalize on others’ expectations of a commendable employee.

( I believe that META BANK does this through employee reward systems)

Coworkers and managers may misread superficial charm as charisma, a desirable leadership trait. A psychopath’s grandiose talk can resemble self-confidence, while subtle conning and manipulation often suggest influence and persuasion skills.

Sometimes psychopaths’ thrill-seeking behavior and impulsivity are mistaken for high energy and enthusiasm, action orientation, and the ability to multitask. ( Meta Bank advertises for employees who can work in a fast changing and fast paced work environment…. no mention is made of honesty, integrity or the ability to work well with their customer base…. META BANK’s value system is skewed.)

To the organization, these individuals’ irresponsibility may give the appearance of a risk-taking and entrepreneurial spirit—highly prized in today’s fast-paced business environment. Lack of realistic goal setting combined with grandiose statements can be misinterpreted as visionary and strategic thinking ability; both are rare and sought after by senior management. An inability to feel emotions may be disguised as the capability to make tough decisions and stay calm in the heat of battle.

Damage

Evidence suggests that when participating in teams, corporate psychopaths’ behaviors can wreak havoc.

In departments managed by psychopaths, their conduct decreases productivity and morale. These issues can have a severe impact on a company’s business performance. ( I had felt that the reason that METABANK employees lied to me, bold and brazenly lied to me as their customer originated in the higher ranks among their CEO’s. The mind set is a really sick one at META BANK that would permit them to lie to their customer in such a brazen way…. Had they never seen that they were lying? META BANK had mailed me a check at my home address and then said that I ( pleased note that META BANK was pushing the blame off on the consumer/customer base) had never given them my address. META BANK had a canceled check with my correct mailing address on it… Why did META BANK feel the need to lie? I saw through the lie, but once META BANK has your money, you have lost all control and even complete accessibility to your own money.)

There also is the risk for economic crimes to be committed. For the corporate executive and the criminal justice professional, the issue is the possibility of fraud. ( It was clear to me that META BANK had designed the prepaid bank card as a way to keep money from consumers. The way that the idea was put in place was to scam their customer base rather than to serve them… META BANK’s mindset is really sick.)

Today’s corporate psychopath may be highly educated—several with Ph.D., M.D., and J.D. degrees have been studied—and capable of circumventing financial controls and successfully passing corporate audits.( META BANK’s corporate pyschopath may actually have a law degree and be dedicated exclusively to pushing META BANK’s agenda.)

Investigation

Investigators should familiarize themselves with the typical traits and characteristics of psychopaths. They must understand the manipulation techniques used to create and manage the psychopathic bonds established with victim organizations. ( I can assure you as a former META BANK customer that there is something very wrong with the way that META BANK does business. The red flag for me was META BANK’s desire to push the blame off on me and to boldly lie to me… there is something very sick in the dynamics and internal practices at META BANK.)

Their reputations, as judged by those in power with whom they have bonded, known as patrons, often provide added protection from closer investigation.

As a result, the investigator may need to build a case with management for the use and broad application of more sophisticated techniques.

Psychopaths can be expert liars often immune to traditional deception-revealing techniques. Some practice avoiding detection in anticipation of being caught and interrogated. Therefore, investigators independently should corroborate any information provided by these individuals.3

Psychopaths often compartmentalize their behavior, enabling them to present themselves differently to various people. ( META BANK obviously wined and dined their partner corporations in order to get those partner corporations to push their META BANK PREPAID CARD. As a META BANK PREPAID CARD HOLDER, I was taken advantage of and misused.Because of this, I feel compelled to speak out  to try to protect other consumers.)

This can help them hide their manipulation and control over victims.(META BANK wanted and wants full control of customer’s money. It is an interest free loan to META BANK. META BANK has offered classes to other banks to show them how to do this same scam. Then if they are all doing it and basically they all need to do it in order to be able to survive, it may appear that the underlying principles of the META BANK CARD are usual and normal, but in reality it is only an expansion of the same scam. This time, since “Everybody is doing it” there is an added sense of legitimacy to the original scam.)

Coworkers may have knowledge or suspicions about the psychopath’s actions that can be useful to the investigator. However, they either may fear repercussions or fall under the influence of the psychopathic bond. (I don’t know what the deal is at META BANK internally, but from what I have observed, there is a major problem. META BANK needs for others to imitate their practices when in fact these practices are very harmful to the general public.)  

If investigators establish rapport and trust with coworkers, information that will make their work easier may be forthcoming. The difficulty comes when these associates are persons of interest. Fortunately, some companies have hotlines for employees to report coworker fraud and other complaints. This information provides an invaluable source of leads.

Corporate psychopaths with exceptional verbal skills make crafty interviewees.( I have felt that META BANK is very skilled at creating publicity on line… it is just too good to be true that any entity could actually meet a customer’s real needs. META BANK has customers self identify according to their own perception of their most vulnerable places. Then META BANK sells the same prepaid bank card using a new name but the same old prepaid bank card after hooking the customer.)  

This ability provides an opportunity embraced by many of them to fool law enforcement officers. In these cases, investigators should proceed with caution.4 Specific interview strategies should focus on exposing psychopaths’ vulnerabilities. Possession of a sense of superiority and lack of empathy can enable them to boast about the brilliance of their latest fraud scheme. They often believe that only someone equal in intelligence to them could understand their actions. Strategies specifically designed to elicit such boasting can result in a wealth of information for the investigator.

Corporate psychopaths are successful because they single out and isolate their targets.(META BANK’s customers are often sought out online and never come face to face with META BANK employees. Frequently META BANK customers must pay extra to phone META BANK . I was handed from one person to the next after having been put on hold. The scale of META BANK’s scam, by using many different names, is great and therefore a serious problem.)

They sometimes manipulate several victims at the same time. Investigators never should assume they are immune to a psychopath’s approach. One conversation may be enough for the bond to be established. Investigators must know themselves so that psychopaths’ attempts at bonding fail. It is valuable for investigators to allow psychopaths to believe they have established rapport with someone inside law enforcement.

“Corporate
psychopaths use the ability to hide their
true selves in plain
sight and display
desirable personality
traits to the
business world.”

Investigators must work as a team, communicate openly, and take all observations seriously. This is necessary for personal self-defense, proficient investigative work, and successful prosecution.

Officers must take heed to avoid being impressed with a suspect’s credentials and success. ( I think that META BANK has given large amounts of cash to re-election campaigns in Iowa to buy some credibility.)

Occasionally, when psychopathic white-collar offenders are identified, they seek out the media and give interviews. They may believe their skills of persuasion are effective enough to convince the public that they have done nothing wrong and are being targeted unjustly by law enforcement. To prevent serious problems with the investigation and prosecution, investigators must remain prepared for all possibilities.

Conclusion

Psychopathy, one of the most studied personality disorders, can cause numerous problems for investigators. Therefore, law enforcement officers must become familiar with psychopaths’ traits and characteristics, prevent psychopathic bonds from forming, corroborate information, and take all observations seriously. Investigators must know themselves, work together, communicate with one another openly, and be prepared to deal with the corporate psychopath.

Endnotes

1 Functional magnetic resonance imaging (FMRI) registers blood flow to functioning areas of the brain.

2 Hare’s Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) is an assessment tool. Psychopathy, as determined by the PCL-R, is indicated by an overall score of 30 or above out of a possible 40. Many point configurations could result in the overall score, determined by adding up the total points for each of the 20 individually listed traits.

3 Research on psychopathy and lie-detection equipment has yielded conflicting results and remains inconclusive.

4 Once established that a perpetrator truly is a psychopath, reviewing the videotaped interrogation can be a lesson in their subtle, yet sophisticated manipulation techniques. This is the same method used by psychopathy researchers.

Additional Resources
P. Babiak, “When Psychopaths Go to Work,” Applied Psychology: An International Review 44, no. 2 (1995): 171-188
P. Babiak, “Psychopathic Manipulation at Work,” in ed., C.B. Gacono, The Clinical and Forensic Assessment of Psychopathy: A Practitioner’s Guide (Mahwah, NJ: Erlbaum, 2000): 287–311
P. Babiak and R.D. Hare, Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work (New York, NY: Harper/Collins, 2006)
P. Babiak, “From Darkness into the Light: Psychopathy in Industrial and Organization Psychology,” in ed., H. Hervé and J. Yuille, The Psychopath: Theory, Research, and
Practice (Mahwah, NJ: Lawrence Erlbaum and Associates, 2007)
P. Babiak, C.S. Neumann, and R.D. Hare, “Corporate Psychopathy: Talking the Walk,” Behavioral Sciences and the Law, 28, no. 2 (2010): 174-193
H. Cleckley, The Mask of Sanity (St Louis, MO: Mosby, 1982)
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Serial Crime Scenes,” in ed., H. Hervé and J. Yuille, The Psychopath: Theory, Research, and Practice (Mahwah, NJ: Lawrence Erlbaum and Associates, 2007): 301-325

Partners who promote META BANK products lose customer base

Angela explains that “I-Advance”  isn’t a normal bank account, this is not a normal debit card. This service specifically geared for people who have problems budgeting or a poor credit histories. With that conveinience comes a cost.

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Angela,

I feel most certain that you have to be an employee of META BANK.

You have failed to ascertain what the real problems have been for customers in dealing with META BANK’s many products; please note that their product is actually always the same, but it is marketed in many different ways.

META BANK changes the rules at any given moment so that they will always end up scamming their customers.

META BANK uses deceptive marketing practices to mislead customers into using their product.

The prepaid card isn’t better or safer than cash for the customer. The prepaid cards simply put the customer’s money into META BANK’s hands for their free use, interest free use.

However, since META BANK can and does change all of the rules without notice, META BANK can work a real scam on their customers and customers have written and written again complaining that META BANK has been unscrupulous in the way they do business.

CONVENIENCE??? (And, by the way, that is how convenience is actually spelled)

META BANK is deceptive in how they do business. This turns out to be a real nightmare for any META BANK customer.

META BANK lies and pushes the blame off on their customer…Of course, META BANK is hoping to get away with this “WALL TECHNIQUE”

META BANK would scam your grandmother!!!

I do not fit into the profile you describe. I could have banked anywhere. I only got the VISA META BANK Travel card since I had been doing business with AAA for many years. Had AAA not promoted and spoke highly of this travel card, I would never have bought into this plan. META BANK’s PrePaid Travel card is nothing but a way for META BANK to get money into their own hands.

I am no longer a customer of AAA. Actually, AAA made good on what META BANK had done, which was to use my money interest free when I needed my own money the most, but I could no longer trust AAA. AAA had told me that this prepaid bank card/travel card was better than carrying cash on me as I traveled independently. I was never able to access my own money.

META BANK said that I had never given them my contact information so they couldn’t tell me that I had an overdraft.

Overdraft!!! ???The amount that META BANK said was an overdraft was the amount that I had told them was my last purchase.

META BANK had made a large exclusive contract with AAA to market their product exclusively, but they never thought to contact AAA to get my contact information. On the other hand, META BANK had sent me a cash out check to my home address months after my first trip using their card so they would have had my canceled check with my address on it in their files.

Meta Bank wanted to push the blame for the problem off onto to anyone and everyone else. The source of the problem was META BANK and no one else.

META BANK is a scam operation, but they are actually taking down their partner corporate entities since META BANK destroys in a very short time any confidence that the customer may have had built up over a long period of time.

META BANK/META PAYMENT SYSTEMS is not part of the American Dream; it is nothing more than a major scam on the American people and any international markets META BANK may have sought out.

My only recourse is to notify the general public so they won’t be scammed as I was.

Since META Bank operates using many different names, please check carefully about the company you may be dealing with.

Don’t buy prepaid cards. Your money will sit there doing nothing, but it will give that company and the bank free, interest free use of your money and that of all other prepaid bank card users.

The other aspect of the scheme is the use of two cards which META BANK used to their advantage as part of the scam, breaking all of their own rules in place at that moment.

By using a prepaid card, the provider of the card hopes that you will forget how much money is on it and even perhaps that you will sock it away at the bottom of a drawer someplace. For META BANK, it is a question of scale; they need many people to opt into this debit card/prepaid card system so they can get free use of your hard earned money.

As if that wasn’t enough, META BANK then lies to customers. Read elsewhere on this blog for some outlandish and amazing true stories of events perpetrated by META BANK.

I find it impossible to do business anymore with the company I had worked with for many years since they had promoted META BANK’s product to me; they weren’t thinking straight about customer service when they opted for the contract with META BANK so I  have lost confidence with them.

META BANK/META PAYMENT SYSTEMS continue to scam Americans out of their hard earned money

MONEY NETWORK BY META BANK

and THE STAR CARD BY META BANK

are the same scam using a new name.

META BANK is still META BANK/

META PAYMENT SYSTEM

no  matter what name

they may choose to give

their product on any

given day.

Please avoid using any

product related to META BANK in any way

or that mimics any of their products.

This is for your own well-being

that you are being forewarned:

I aM aN employee oF a large corp. That does not issue it’s employees paychecks. Instead it uses A DEBIT CARDISSUED BY META BANK CALLED A STAR CARD BY money network. THIS CARD IS CRAP, YOU CAN HARDLY USE IT ANYWHERE. MCDONALDS AND CONVENIENCE STORES ARE ABOUT THE ONLY PLACES YOU CAN USE IT. IF YOU NEED TO PAY A BILL YOU ARE (S.O.L.) S*** OUT OF LUCK. IN ORDER TO PAY ANYTHING YOU, OF COURSE , HAVE TO WITHDRAW MONEY FROM THE A.T.M. WHICH OF COURSE CHARGES YOU A SURCHARGE/FEE TO GET YOUR OWN PAYCHECK THAT YOU WORKED YOUR A** OFF FOR. IT IS RIDICULOUS !!!! JUST ANOTHER WAY FOR THE BIGGER CORPORATIONS TO KEEP YOU FROM GETTING THE MONEY YOU’VE EARNED. SO I WILL CLOSE BY SAYING THAT META BANK/money network AND STAR CARD ARE AJOKE !!!!!!!! I AM CURRENTLY PUTTING A PETITION TOGETHER IN THE STATE I LIVE IN (TX) TO STOP THIS NON-SENSE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS PETITION NATIONAL YOU CAN CONTACT ME @JARRAD_BLACKSHEAR@tx.rr.com.

Thank you for the forum to get this out, YOU ARE A GODSEND……… fe9f37

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1. Written by bigz on August 8, 2011if your just take time to read your packet when you get your ist card,,and understand all the contents, you will not have a hard time using the card. And you can just use the moneynetwork checks that came with the card to encash your pay and that would be for free,

 What people are complaining about is different from you experience. The complaint is, ”  HAVE TO WITHDRAW MONEY FROM THE A.T.M. WHICH OF COURSE CHARGES YOU A SURCHARGE/FEE TO GET YOUR OWN PAYCHECK THAT YOU WORKED YOUR A** OFF FOR.” 
The pay card wasn’t his choice. It is being manipulated as a gimmick to the advantage of the company. By the way this is illegal in many states if not all states. Please contact your State Attorney General’s Office to ask and also to complain. Please have your co-workers do the same so that this can be stopped.

2. Written by zari398 on February 15, 2011Hi I’m Zari. I’m 16 and i have a Money Network Card. :) :grin ;) 8) :p :roll :eek :upset :zzz :sigh :? :cry :( :xI have had so many problems with this card that i just wanted to cut it up…. When i had to do a verification where i had to send my ssn, ID, and birth certificate, but every time i sent it they said the picture was to dark or they didn’t receive the fax. I went through that whole process for 2-3weeks. I got so frustrated with them because they wouldn’t let me cancel the card/account and send me my money. By the time i got my card fixed i had gotten paid two times.So people if you get that letter saying to verify DO IT RIGHT AWAY SO YOU WON’T HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM I HAD!!!! Otherwise you won’t be getting your money and you wont be able to use the card. After all of that fustration i love my card. I pay online for stuff, i can use it everywhere i go and i have no problems with it Now.Please also know that the card was designed so that the payer can hold onto your money for as long as they wish. Putting you off and making you jump through so many hoops is part of their standard practice at META Bank.You should be putting your money into a savings account at your age and making plans for your future.These cards give a stranger full use of your money while they give you the run around.

Well hope you people enjoy it.      META BANK is a subprime bank; they cater to people who can’t get credit anywhere else and they treat their customers like dirt. Everything is the customer’s fault. Open up a savings account at a locally owned bank.

Subprime banks count on being able to charge higher interest rates. This is why they seek out people for customers who can’t get credit anywhere else.
Zari wrote that Zari is 16 years old. Why does a 16 year old have such a card? This makes no sense.

Also Zari wrote “So people if you get that letter saying to verify DO IT RIGHT AWAY SO YOU WON’T HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM I HAD!!!! Otherwise you won’t be getting your money and you wont be able to use the card.”  At this point in Zari’s statement, I began to believe that we were actually getting feedback from META BANK/Now Card. Zari then decides that this is the best card, “After all of that fustration i love my card. I pay online for stuff, i can use it everywhere i go and i have no problems with it Now. “

Remember readers that Zari is 16 years old and a minor in the eyes of the law. META BANK is promoting their card to teenagers, and, on their website, they encourage customers to use their card as a way to get an improved credit rating. How much would a genuine 16 year old be concerned about their credit rating? How does a 16 year old attend high school and then college if they are constantly buying more and more online? Does the 16 year old have to take a job after school hours to feed their excessive buying habit? Why isn’t Zari focused more on Zari’s education and future.   Living only in the present with such a card is a terrible lesson in life.

In so many ways this entry reads like an ad from the bank itself and not a genuine input to this discovery process of our current banking system.

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3. Written by Earl Allen Boek on January 13, 2011I Believe this Meta Bank is the biggest  scam I’ve ever seen and I’ve been in the mortgage business 20 years in California.First of all, their scam is to “Make you” receive their permanent pre-paid card, which if you never wanted one in the first place, your doomed to get one, (well since I complained) looks like I don’t get one.They just use up my funds, with my repeated inquiries about my remaining $300 dollar balance and sit on my money, I guess until it’s all gone. Money Network Card Services is a Tennessee business. Contact the Attorney General of Tenn, that’s my next move.Yes, do contact your own state Attorney General’s Office! META BANK as the parent company is a national bank so also please contact the Office of Thrift Supervision in D.C. and the US Attorney General’s office. The pattern for META BANK and the pre-paid branded cards is for them to get your money and for them to hold it, and use your money while you can’t get clear information from them nor access to your own money.You are making the bank an interest free loan. If the tables were turned, and they were loaning you money, META BANK and the pre-paid bank cards would be charging you outrageous fee to borrow their money.Charging fees for contacting the bank sounds like a big scam to me. The problem is that once money is on the prepaid cards, this gives the bank or agency far too much control of your money.

Another aspect of their gimmick is for you to forget about the money on the card. This is why phone contact with them is so non-productive. They will pass you from customer representative to the next one. They will make outrageous lies. If they have full control of your money, they can say whatever they please and give you the run around for as long as they need your money.

With our economy as it is now, these prepaid network branded bank cards are a terrible choice for consumers. Employers shouldn’t be pushing this off onto their employees.

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4. Written by Starry on January 1, 2011Mela if you have a STAR debit card you can’t pay bills online. Upgrade to a VISA or open your own bank account, problem solved.VISA is a brand name that is used by META BANK; the term in and of itself has no meaning for how the bank will use the VISA Brand name. It all depends on the bank you are using. Once you have a problem, and make a note of the issuing bank on the back side of whatever card you have, it could still be and most likely still is a META BANK product with the same collectors. META BANK promotes use of their cards through another agency where you may have been doing business for years; META BANK will court the upper echelon at the partner company who just can’t believe that META BANK would treat their customers in a different and offensive manner. However, this is how META BANK actually operates. META BANK operates using many different brand names and markets to other businesses so as a collection agency you may never know directly if it is META BANK. The poor quality of service will let you know that it is a META BANK VISA or MASTER CARD.

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5. Written by Cookie1176 on January 1, 2011If you people take your time and read the card packet and ask questions you would not have so many problems using this prepaid bank account. I have used the MN prepaid debit card bank account for almost four years. If you use the card you will pay fees, that’s why you need to use the free checks that are included with the account, if you don’t know what the check is call customer service and ask questions and quit being so helpless. The Money Network pay card/bank account is legal in all 50 states simply because the MN checks are included where you can access 100% of your pay at free check cashing locations (terms and conditions are included if you need even more detail). Again if you quite *** long enough about getting paid on a prepaid account and read the how to guide you would know this. The MN card is a bank account with a routing and account number that can be used online to pay bills via ACH. If you have a STAR logo then you need to upgrade to the VISA card, it tells you how in the card kit. I pay my mortgage, phone bill, cable bill, internet, *** I even have the account set up with Pay Pal with my MN account. I have never had a problem using my MN card at any store that has a PIN pad. Almost every retailer out there is in the STAR debit network. If you don’t want to pay fees associated with the card, write a Money Network check or open a bank account, if you have good credit. Chances are you have bad or no credit if you were offered a MN card at your job. The moral of the story is read if you know how. Reading is fundamental and reading goes a long way and you avoid a lot of heart ache if you do it often.No matter where you go the paycard/prepaid bank accounts are taking over. It is cheaper and more efficient for employers to mandate so as I said earlier get your own account or use theirs, there is nothing the state payroll departments will do because there is a prepaid bank account associated with each debit card issued thru meta and MN or any other legal payroll distribution programs. Most importantly the checks are what makes the accounts legal in all states.
Cookie 1176 writes with an attitude that mimics the way and the attitude that I encountered customer service’s personal treatment of me. I believe that Cookie1176 may be part of the scamming system. Otherwise, why be angry at the difficulties other people are experiencing. Cookie1176 stands to gain lots of money if they are part of the system.“Legal in all 50 States”: META BANK and the NETWORK BRANDED PREPAID CARD ASSOCIATION which is headed up by META BANK CEO’s paid Rupli and Associates, a Washington D.C. lobbyists more than any other group in the United States in 2009 to advocate for the national legalization of the prepaid cards. The success of their lobbying efforts have opened up the prepaid card business very wide. It is a sure money maker for those people who sell them.Cookie1176 wrote,”  there is nothing the state payroll departments will do because there is a prepaid bank account associated with each debit card issued thru meta and MN or any other legal payroll distribution programs. Most importantly the checks are what makes the accounts legal in all states.”META Bank explains to customers on their website that they can help them to improve their poor credit rating by getting META BANK’s checking account with the accompanying prepaid debit card. The two accounts are then linked. A person’s wages are directly deposited into the checking account; this action gives META BANK and MN full control of the customer’s total income. META BANK lied to me; why would anyone assume that they wouldn’t lie to them. META BANK held onto my money instead of giving me full access to it. They had a long list of lies in place to tell me for why I couldn’t access my money. I recognized them as rather bold lies, but what did they care? They had full use of my money when I needed it the most. This is how META BANK makes more money; it is by having complete use of your money.Demand another way to do business in our country. Write to your elected officials, your US Representative and to your US Congress person, your US Senator to ask for a change. Pay cash. Have a savings account. Move money you have budgeted over to your check book or take out the cash to pay bills. Start to buy more at locally owned businesses. Avoid buying on line from unknown entities. Don’t do business with META BANK.

Cookie 1176 wrote, “if you quite *** long enough about getting paid on a prepaid account and read the how to guide you would know this. The MN card is a bank account with a routing and account number that can be used online to pay bills via ACH. If you have a STAR logo then you need to upgrade to the VISA card, it tells you how in the card kit. I pay my mortgage, phone bill, cable bill, internet, *** I even have the account set up with Pay Pal with my MN.” account.

The language Cookie1176 uses is inappropriate relative to the first entry. Cookie1176 also can’t spell. Cookie1176 appears to have knowledge about how Cookie1176 perceives the system works, but what is Cookie1176’s personal interest in this situation. I found that Meta Bank representatives also wanted to push blame off onto the customer; they had been taught to do this and not to resolve problems for customers. In doing this, the META BANK representives were very much a part of the scam, but not the biggest moneymakers. They would be the Haahr’s and all of the CEO’s at META BANK.

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6. Written by f on December 17, 2010;) :p 8) ;) :grin :) :roll :upset :eek :sigh :zzz :( :x :cry :?

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F’s comment is like that of a child.

7. Written by Autozoner on November 19, 2010I’ve never had a Starcard. Get a bank account and get your check direct deposited.
The reason they do that *** card is to get you to move to direct deposit. There are to many problems with checks.Autozoner wrote, “I’ve never had a Starcard. Get a bank account and get your check direct deposited. 
The reason they do that *** card is to get you to move to direct deposit. There are to many problems with checks.”The problems exist between direct deposit into a checking account that is linked to a debit card controlled by the bank. The customer is giving up all of their economic freedom to become an economic slave to a banking system that is corrupt.Once again we have all of those Asterik’s which I interpret to have been placed there to indicate cussing.Autozoner indicate that there are too many problems with checks or rather “There are to many problems with checks.” Autozoner makes similar symbols and spelling mistakes as Cookie 1176.
Who are the problems with by using checks? I suspect not for the customer. Why not simply pay in cash then?We are tired of being scammed by META BANK. Does Cookie1176 and Autozoner understand this part of the equation? META BANK Customers are not going to sit down and allow banks like that to continue to take advantage of us. We have had enough double talk. Only someone who felt they had something to gain would quibble with the genuine problems that we are sharing with others so that they will never have to go through the same horrific experience.

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8. Written by Maria on November 4, 2010I don’t know why anyone is having a problem using this card..I have had mine for over 2 years now and i’ve never had a problem! I pay most of my bills online with it and it has a cvc code and visa logo so there’s not reason why anyone shouldn’t be able to use it anywhere that accepts visa now when I first got my card it was just a debit to receive my paycheck but I upgraded it to the visa debit soon thereafter. I love this card it is great!!!

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Maria wrote,” visa logo so there’s not reason why anyone shouldn’t be able to use it anywhere that accepts visa now when I first got my card it was just a debit to receive my paycheck but I upgraded it to the visa debit soon thereafter. I love this card it is great!!!”    

How nice for Maria!!! Has she understood the complaints that have been expressed. What is her vested interest in this discussion?

Once again, Maria sounds more like the customer representative personnel of META PAYMENT SYSTEMS.

Please note the the term VISA or the VISA LOGO will not guarantee any META BANK customer a decent  quality of service. META BANK uses their own collection agency and collectors who operator like those old bookies we used to see on TV. Has Maria actually offered any real solution for the person who made the initial post? No, she says that she knows how to use the plan properly. As arrogant as this sounds to most readers, this is the excuse that META BANK gave to a college professor who couldn’t get any European business to even accept the card. META BANK said that he hadn’t used the card properly. If the merchant refuses to deal with META BANK, it isn’t the customer’s fault, but the knowledge of the world business community that doesn’t trust META Bank.

Maria, Cookie1176 and Autozoner, I am so happy for you, but you haven’t actually given a viable solution.

9. Written by sydneyraejavascript:ac_smilie( on September 9, 2010Wow, I’ll I see are angry customers, frustrated with Meta bank. I too got forced into accepting the Visa Money Network card from my employer because I’m 16 and can’t open my own bank account. I thought the advantages of having a card with me at all times instead having to constantly take out cash from an account would over weigh the millions of surcharges. I have yet to use my card, but to be honest I’m scared too. I have a car payment andinsurance to pay, I cant have my card “locked” or my money stolen because Money Network is charging me for using and ATM or checking my balance. I hope everything goes well with this card, I’m making my first online purchase with it in the next day or so, so I will defiantly post on how that experience went. I heard that as long as you have a Visa card your okay, so I’m hoping thats the case!

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Why would any bank sell such a card to a 16 year old?

sydneyraejavascript:ac_smilie(      still plans to use this card. The spelling errors of sydneyraejavascript:ac_smilie( are so similar to those of cookie1176, autozoner and Maria that I believe that they may be all the same responder.  

The original post was written on September 9, 2010 by sydneyraejavascript:ac_smilie(         

There is no followup response. The VISA LOGO is no guarantee; META BANK is the bank behind all transactions.

10. Written by vxi on August 30, 2010My employer VXI is forcing me to open MONEY NETWORK BY META BANK. Frankly after reviewing comments online I don’t whant to do it. Please advise on how to avoid that scam.It is against the law to force an employee to take their pay via a prepaid card. Please check this out with the state attorney general’s office or the consumer protection agency sponsored by the state government where you live.The original post can be found athttp://auto-zone.pissedconsumer.com/money-network-by-meta-bank-20080721128320.htmlI believe that this original site may actually be sponsored by META BANK and its affiliates, and that it was originally an attempt to let people blow off steam, but META BANK never expected the complaints to go any further.I wonder even about some of the examples given in the follow up. Why does the family of a 16 year old allow that child to get into debt because that child wishes to own their own vehicle? Don’t their parents have any backbone? The kind of thinking that has a child start off their life in debt will be the ruination of their entire life, and META BANK is right there making money off of the most vulnerable people in our society.

Please send letters of phone your elected officials asking for the changes in the way we bank in the USA and the world!

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META BANK announces in clear terms that they are not customer oriented; unsuspecting companies using their services will end up losing customers who are scammed by META BANK; Improving Customer Service simply doesn’t exist, isn’t a priority; META Bank announces their motives for failing to address consumer concerns and needs; As consumers, though, we ask why is it necessary for META Bank to lie to us once we are their customers? Poor management or real scam artists thrive within META BANK – Please be warned

4/6/2011

Meta’s Senior Vice President of Agent Products, Mick Conlin featured in Paybefore article

Meta’s Agent Bank prepaid program was featured in the top story of the April 2011 Paybefore Update. The article, titled “FIs Look to GPR Cards in Changing Market”, explores the current research and strategy of how financial institutions of all sizes are offering prepaid products to their customers. Mick Conlin, Meta’s Senior Vice President of Agent Products, is interviewed and states, “When positioned as part of an overall product strategy, prepaid can help drive customer acquisition and retention strategies, reducing costs and providing more value over the life of the customer relationship.”

[META BANK has used many names by which and means through which they provide their same old scam]
[No mention is made of improving customer service, just of their own potential for financial gain. META Bank will drive away your customer base for a quick gain. Also please note that META BANK has used many names by which and means through which they provide their same old scam]

[“prepaid can help drive customer acquisition and retention strategies, reducing costs and providing more value over the life of the customer relationship.” – Translated into everyday English, META BANK’s prepaid bank card is a very bad idea for consumers. Companies who take on this program will run off former customers. Is that what you, as a company really wants to do? META BANK is all about marketing, but very short on real customer service; Many,many customers have logged complaints.]

[Reading between the lines is very easy in this entry from META BANK directly. There is nothing in this plan to actually serve customers. Any business needs to make a profit, but it should be for a real service that they provide to their customer base. META BANK is all about grabbing as much money for themselves as quickly as possible. Rules are only applied for their benefit.]